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Just Cuz
post Apr 13 2007, 10:22 PM
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UGA is the Ulead file format.

Layers just means there's more than one object - they are combined to create the finished image.


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post Apr 14 2007, 10:39 PM
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Yes but you said "between" the layers............... i thought everything you have clicked to "show object" in gif animator is there...... in that "frame" - dunno if I make myself clear. You seemed to imply a smiley sandwich - I assume backgtround - smiley - foreground - but maybe I misunderstood.
Is this what you mean? Is there somewhere where you set an object to back or front then?

Ah...............order bring forward? Make the front of lava lamp object "blue" and bring forward - gives the poor trapped lil fellow a sort of misty look.............. as he is between.
You have to send background to back as well? And if you copy 20 or so of these empy lamps with background sent back and foreground sent forward, I am wondering if anything you then add will be between - or if you have to set each time.... off to have a try. (Am I anywhere along the right lines here????)

Ah................... had a play.
A difference between bring forward / send backward and bring to front / send to back.

Send background to back in all - make the smiley do its thing - then slap the foreground on top after..... I guess there are many ways to skin a cat (horrible saying - and nope not an idea for a smilie)..... seems to work.

Actually maybe that is an idea for a new series of smilies........ "sayings". I have seen the flogging a dead horse on several forums.
I guess maybe not so good an idea as each language / culture has its own sayings. I mean what would Laie do for "llueve gatos y perros / estГЎ lloviendo gatos y perros" (excuse bad Spanish)

But "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" might work..... or "red sky at night, shepherds delight..." (I haven't seen many Kolobok sheep.....)

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post May 17 2007, 10:44 PM
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I thought the eyes moved very nicely.....
And - not that I have any time atm - but maybe someone can tell me - how do you "borrow" an element from someones elses Kolobok......... open is something like paintshop and "cut" it? I have just wondered when people have said "this is as far as I had time, feel free to modify it....." coz all the "parts" of those smilies are already "locked" as one gif.............


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post May 18 2007, 01:18 AM
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QUOTE(Fugz @ May 17 2007, 02:44 PM) [snapback]7937[/snapback]
how do you "borrow" an element from someones elses Kolobok......... open is something like paintshop and "cut" it?

Unless they provide a GDK, UGA, etc. then modifying someone else's image is difficult.

Yes, you can crop elements from individual frames or make pixel-by-pixel adjustments in an animation program - but that's tedious work.




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post May 18 2007, 11:03 AM
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OK I am back at square one after a long break.
How do I drag something from the kolobok_gdk to make a new blank object............ did I ever work this out?


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post May 18 2007, 07:13 PM
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You can't really drag & drop from the GDK only into it.

However, you can copy & paste objects from one session to another. It's easiest if you have two Ulead windows open at the same time. Keep in mind though, that the X-Y coordinates copy over as well. So if your destination canvas is smaller than the source canvas, some of the objects may seem to get lost in the process. To compensate, you can click the "Center Both" icon in the Attribute Toolbar immediately after pasting so you can spot them more easily. wink.gif



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post May 18 2007, 10:15 PM
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Thank you - I will give it a try.
I was using the folder of separated body bits etc that you made me - but I just wanted a few more eyes etc and I couldn't remember how to get them "off" the GDK and into ULead. I had all the GDK opened in one ULead window and another ULead window with my project - but I still can't get them from one to the other. Do I drag to the canvas or to a vacant "new object" box (if you know what i mean). Either way I seem to lose the thing,


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post May 19 2007, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(Fugz @ May 18 2007, 02:15 PM) [snapback]7977[/snapback]
Do I drag to the canvas or to a vacant "new object" box (if you know what i mean). Either way I seem to lose the thing,

Noooo, I just told you you can't drag and drop from the GDK. You have to copy and paste the objects if you want to take them to a new project.

The alternative is to use the GDK file for your new project. But that can be cumbersome with the massive quantity of items it contains. nea.gif




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post May 19 2007, 11:51 PM
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Noooooo!!! I have all the elements of the GDK opened in Gifanimator...........

Isn't that what you mean by 2 Ulead windows open at once????????



And i try to move the ones I want into another project - opening a 2nd instance of Gifanimator


Its how i drag them and where I put them - they disappear from the first but don't appear in the 2nd....

And as for the attributes toolbar that only seems available in "optimise tab" and I can't find anything there that says centre - and then the program crashes in optimise.......

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post May 20 2007, 01:39 AM
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Nope, nope, nope...

What you're doing dragging them off the canvas in the GDK - not dragging them to the other project.

You have to use copy & paste to get them from one to the other NO DRAGGING. crazy.gif

I can see the attribute toolbar in the screen shots you posted - the alignment icons are greyed out though because you don't have any objects selected.



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post Jun 1 2007, 08:17 AM
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Nm then
I need a head in hands smilie........... can't figure it out.
Got somewhere - maybe - program crashed - walked away for a week - am back where I started - lost.......


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post Jun 1 2007, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(Fugz @ Jun 1 2007, 12:17 AM) [snapback]8314[/snapback]
I need a head in hands smilie........... can't figure it out.

Something along the lines of this?




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post Jun 1 2007, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(Just Cuz @ Jun 1 2007, 09:26 AM) [snapback]8317[/snapback]
Something along the lines of this?



oooh ... very lovely !! smile.gif


QUOTE(Fugz @ Jun 1 2007, 07:17 AM) [snapback]8314[/snapback]
I need a head in hands smilie...........


i found this lovely smilie from viannen !! >


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post Jun 3 2007, 09:11 AM
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Almost but it lacks the despair and frustration!!! aggressive.gif sorry.gif nea.gif sad.gif beee.gif a little of all of these LOL


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post Jun 3 2007, 05:13 PM
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Here's the UGA file if you want to play with it. Attached File  Head_in_Hands.zip ( 3.28K ) Number of downloads: 750


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post Jun 27 2007, 07:22 AM
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OOOOOHHH!!!

There's a lot to learn... it seems that I'm going to be veeeeery busy from now on. I need to read carefully all the wisdom words that you experts are sharing...

Then, practice a lot and I hope someday I could figure out something worthy. biggrin.gif



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post Jun 27 2007, 06:49 PM
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Just Cuz, where can I download (or buy) all the different aspects (as in programme) so I can have a go at it myself? It's probably a stupid question but I do suffer sometimes of blond moments crazy.gif and can't seem to find the programme


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post Jun 28 2007, 07:52 AM
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@ ninapooh - If you are asking about Ulead GIF Animator, it can be found at this address: http://www.ulead.com/ga/runme.htm declare.gif



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post Jun 28 2007, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(Just Cuz @ Jun 28 2007, 05:52 AM) [snapback]9450[/snapback]
@ ninapooh - If you are asking about Ulead GIF Animator, it can be found at this address: http://www.ulead.com/ga/runme.htm declare.gif



I've got the programme already installed on my PC, what I am looking for are the KOLOBOKS themselves, the eyes, hands, bodies etc


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post Jun 28 2007, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(ninapooh @ Jun 28 2007, 12:00 PM) [snapback]9476[/snapback]
~ what I am looking for are the KOLOBOKS themselves, the eyes, hands, bodies etc
QUOTE(Just Cuz @ Feb 16 2007, 08:44 PM) [snapback]5762[/snapback]
Aiwan has a Graphics Development Kit available for download HERE.



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